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For years I have been trying to help develop some kind of community-based space for not only discussing and exchanging information and opinion, but also to help encourage various ways to increase general health and safety. It is a difficult undertaking due to so many various opinions, difficult to answer questions, and conflicting perspectives.

It is not my intention to tell people how to live their lives, but rather to try and help people find answers concerning how to improve their lives and the lives of their loved ones. I want to not only encourage people to actively think for themselves, but to actively grapple with life, and ask difficult questions, and challenge themselves.

This is a good thing to do because it is thorough: you only have one life, one body, and one chance, so why not optimize the heck out of it and literally ‘be the best you can be’… It is also a good thing because as we make progress as a civilization and learn ways to positively tweak and improve the way life works, we can pass on that information to others, and gradually increase the quality of life for everyone.

I am still developing the best way I can contribute to this cause, but in the meantime, I wanted to say some direct words about health and safety.

There are good and bad aspects to many things in life. And it is possible that something can be good in one context, but bad in another. I think that is pretty much obvious. But I feel it necessary, because as I attempt to offer some words of caution, I do not want to make anyone feel unfairly judged. My hope is to encourage you all to take the best possible care of yourselves and each other.

Like most people, I did my share of experimentation when I was younger. While I was much tamer and more reserved than many of my friends, I made a decision early on that I wanted to attain the clearest, strongest, most capable mind possible. And although I still enjoy some occasional vices (drinking wine and coffee), and of course if I have a head ache I take Tylenol or whatever, I never ‘get high’ or ‘party’ irresponsibly. This is just a personal decision (and I love it! I LOVE being clear, and I deeply believe that Bassnectar has grown as a successful project in a large part due to the clarity and focus of my mind)…

In the past decade I have seen several dear friends lose their lives due to drug abuse. And I have seen a large amount of friends’ lives deteriorate (sometimes to heart-wrenching levels) due to chemical dependency or abuse.

It is obviously difficult to balance a culture of celebration, a culture of art, a culture of high-energy activity of any kind with 100% health and safety. But I deeply believe in the positive benefits of music, art, dancing, and community. For me music and dancing have been an incredibly healthy release, and this has been without drugs, on multiple levels (spiritual, physical, emotional, etc) and I am often concerned that not enough people are being responsible or taking enough care of themselves or others.

This is everything from getting enough sleep & excercise; to drinking enough water, to being responsible with drugs and alcohol. There are positive moves (improving your diet, working with an awesome counselor to make positive changes in life, working actively on goals and seeing them through) and there are negative moves (quitting smoking, avoiding dangerous habits, etc) but I feel it is important to take an active role in improving all aspects of life… I am even concerned with ear safety (which is why I wear ear plugs every night, as does everyone on my crew, and why we give away unlimited free ear plugs every night) but each and every issue has it’s own particular nuance and detail, and takes a long time to respond to and expand on.

Tragically, a week ago, someone passed away after being at a show at the Aragon. I do not have all the details, but I am told he had ingested some kind of drug (potentially mdma?) and today his mother wrote into the site. I responded to her privately, out of respect. But I felt an even more pressing need to address this issue of ‘healthy & safety” with the rest of you.

I think it is important to not only show deep respect, but also to learn from this tragedy, and spread the word about how important it is to educate yourself on being careful and healthy.

I understand that in any counter culture environment there will be exploration and experimentation, and while I am not here to judge how any of you lives, I cannot possibly overstate how important it is to make wise decisions that prioritize education, health, and safety.

Getting sidetracked by the specifics (MDMA, molly, hydration) or even by the question of what classifies as “Drugs” and what does not, all of this detracts from how important it is to cherish your life, to take care of yourself and those around you. There are so many ways to do this (educating yourself, discussing with others, making safe and wise decisions) but here is another reminder of how fragile life is, and how important it is to treat your body with extreme care. I have seen many people’s lives destroyed by drug abuse. For me personally, life is just too short and precious to take unnecessary risks, plus I have learned to love and prefer a strong, clear mind over anything else.

Please all of you: educate yourselves about drug use from reliable sources. There are a lot of resources on the net with information about drug use/abuse like http://dancesafe.org/. As with all things in life please get educated before your decide to tamper with your body.

Obviously there are dangers everywhere: frat parties, night clubs, even sporting events and every day life. Instead of living in fear, I encourage you to give constant thanks for your life and show respect for yourself and others by making the most of all that life has to offer.

I have been preparing an information and discussion area for this site, regarding health & safety and general well-being. These things take time in part because so many issues are so complex and multi-faceted. Hopefully in the meantime you can find some of this helpful:

http://dancesafe.org/

http://www.thesite.org/

Much Love!

Lorin


  • No Thizzin'

    I've Seen Lorin and Company quite a few times and it is always a memorable performance. I have to say that the stereotypical fanbase that surrounds Bassnectar takes away from the experience for me, oftentimes I'm mobbin' harder than the kids in sunglasses in a drug-addled stupor. That being said I have a tremendous respect for what you guys as artists are doing, and that you are practicing what you preach. No pills and no powders people, it's that simple.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J3H3LFDLU2G6P3JWXBUEEPK2TA TristanT

    I'd like to thank you for taking the much more realistic harm reduction route rather than preaching about abstinence. People need to know the truth about drugs, telling them not to do it is counter productive. If people realistically knew the risks and how to minimize them very few people would die from ODing.

  • Dmandruecker

    Thanks lorin for putting it out there in a completely respectful and meaningful way. I have also seen the pitfalls of abuse, it is wonderful to see someone with your influence say something that will reach some people and make them question what they think they know. Lots of respect to all of your crew and your self. I cannot stress the importance of educating ones self, it is the best way to prepare for life!

  • Cmkimmer

    Hey Lorin,
    I was at your show at the Hat Factory in Richmond Va. My girlfriend and bought tickets 3 months in advance and waited with patient excitement. My girlfriend wants to be a DJ, and she idolizes you and your amazing talent, style, and freshness. Finally, after months of playing all of your cd's to death, listening to anything of yours we could get our hands on, Nov. 4th came. We were super stoked to see you live, and also stoked to hear that you and pretty lights would be opening for each other. We were chillen at the show, having an awesome time. On the set break after pretty lights we were on the smoking deck, and you walked in. I said you're name and you turned around and said hey. When you came on, I was getting down to your sweet ass beats, and went upstairs to get a drink. Apparently it was VIP, which I didn't know, and no one bothered to tell me until 4 dudes strong armed me out. My girl and my posse left shortly after, resulting in all of us missing most of your set that we had waited so long to see. I just wanted to write and say that I think you're fucking awesome, and I hope you make it back to virginia soon so I can catch the rest of the show that I missed.

  • Holaolas

    Point taken. I have been listening to you for many years now. Been to lots of shows in the City of Angels (favorite one has to be Sea of Dreams at the El Rey). I was at your recent Wiltern gig and was perplexed by the age group of the show; all early 20's kids and here I am in my mid 40's. It was funny, it seemed like I was at a rave of old. Many sweaty kids with large pupils ans smiles walking around having fun.
    So here it is, we have experienced what it feels like to be out of our minds on chemicals and rocking out to some bass. The kids haven't gone through that cycle yet and have to get that experience themselves and come to their own conclusion as to how to deal with that in their lives. I am all up for experimentation, hell yeah. But to tell someone not to do something that they feel like is just wrong. As humans, we have this need to defy gravity once in a while and see what happens. I am sorry that the young man met his demise after attending one of your shows. That is truly a tragedy. Hopefully his death will cause some to use caution in how they live and what they put in their bodies.
    I guess I can sum this post up with the idea of this; go for it, live it and get through it with a smile on your face! As you age you will decide what to hold on to and what to gracefully let go by the wayside. Life is a beautiful thing! Peace

  • Gabz

    i love you so much its like… ridiculous

  • Burtoniak

    not sure if i helped spur this blog with my questions or if it was perfect timing but regardless, thank you, thank you… and oh yea, thank you. ;-)

  • EarDrumMelter

    I have been to many different shows, not all Bassnectar, but shows that this same crowd follows. I also went to Summer Camp and Northcoast this past year and have had my experiences and seen other people going out of their minds, but when i was at this show at the Aragon theater I was almost shocked at the way people were acting. Kids were out of control to the point that I could not even enjoy standing near the crowd of people surrounding the stage, and spent almost all of the show up in the balcony. I had a great time, but because of some of the things I saw at that show I do not know if I will attend another one. When i went to the bathroom i saw someone puking their guts out, making horrible noises and gasping for air. I was also trying to help someone find the bathroom but he couldn't understand a word i was saying. these are just two examples of some things i saw.

    People can experiment but this is just way overboard. You do not need to be completely fried to have a good time. this life is already a wonderful one.

    I can't help feeling like maybe one of the people i saw was the person who passed and this makes me feel very guilty that i did not do something to help him. I hope his family is doing ok, i will be sending them love and peace.

    PS. I hope to be a DJ myself someday, and i will do my best to be as good of a role model that you are for me Lorain. Thanks.

    • EarDrumMelter

      PSS sorry i spelled your name wrong!!!

  • Df_balla

    Straight up those are beautiful words.. This man has found himself and speaks the truth! Everyone can be a positive influence on others just keep it ridiculously real and show compassion. Peace, Love, Good Vibes, and Glorious Dirty Beats to all!

    One Love!

    -Muggzy

  • Brian Noble

    I'm sorry but I cant think of any other way I would rather die. As a matter a fact I think I've almost died at all of your shows I've been to but the bass kept my heart beating. <3

    • willwatkins

      Really dude?

      • Brian Noble

        Really dude. I can’t imagine a more perfect, loving, and peaceful atmosphere to move on from life on earth.

      • Anonymous

        Ok, Maybe I misunderstood you. I can vibe on that sentiment. But untimely and unfortunate nonetheless.

  • Sean

    You are a very big influence to me, thank you for making great music and spreading a good message.

  • Vinny
  • Sandy

    Thank you for addressing this very important topic with your fan base.

  • Xalcatrazz22x

    While i was at that show at the Aragon i had really good vibes from the crowd the whole time, everyone was dressed up and grooving to the bass. But after hearing news like this it just kills me inside. i was also at the Aragon show for Sound Tribe back in August before going to the after-show at the H.O.B. and on our way out the streets were shut down and the roads were full of cops and an ambulance because someone had died at that show as well. i dont know…two times in a row has really got me worried…

  • Xalcatrazz22x

    Life and the Universe are infinitely stranger than anything the mind could invent. the four forces that govern our universe are in such a perfect balance that if one of them were any stronger or weaker it would be impossible for life to exist and yet we have life on this incredibly small rock drifting through space and all the people on it create networks of energy and love that lead to the most amazing things ever imaginable when they gather together. I agree that it is a beautiful thing to be alive at all at any-given moment. -Had to say it….much love

  • dom

    hats off to you bro

  • susan

    Lorin,

    What you wrote is beautiful and thoughtful. It's overwhelming how many people you have reached with this message. It fills me with hope at a time in my life which just sucks. I can understand why my son admired and respected you. You have started a great discussion. This is very very IMPORTANT.

    Susan

  • Sam Watkins

    I know you are busy doin your thing, but I wanna see you in the crowd wompin with us one of these days!!

    see you new years,

    S.Wat

  • Carroll Hunter

    Hey Lorin,
    I was wondering if i could send you my interview questions. My class is doing a project called Capstone and we need real world answers to the questions that we came up with. My project I'm doing is how to become a successful music producer.
    Much thanks,
    Carroll Hunter

  • Chassee

    i was at that show at the Aragon…..it was an incredible show, but there were so many people that were WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too fucked up, and it really makes me sad for the community. The culture is becoming more popular and more and more kids are jumping inot it without a clue as to what they are doing, and taking things from people they don;t even know or trust with complete disreguard to the ramifications. im a firm supporter of dance safe, they do amazing work and everyone should check out their sight before doing anything to their bodies. much love.

  • http://www.bassnectar.net LORIN

    wow. lots of beautiful comments here.
    THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING RESPECTFUL and showing some class while still sharing your thoughts on these tender issues.

    for the people worried about seeing people 'messed up' at shows…. this weekend in London put anything i have ever seen to shame in that it was a FREAKFEST of people who were completely nutted off their rockers. Made the states look tame in terms of partying.

    Also keep in mind, you may just be noticing it, but it has been 'like this' for EONS. Including but not limited to the rave era when i got started in 1995, and of course every year before that.

    For those of you rolling your eyes at this very same issue: please remember, the brain is a SERIOUS organism… it is electrical muscle and mucus and magic that makes up the personality/soul, and is offset and tweaked by the most minor things (like lack of sleep, or even by basic food…some say even by thought) ….that was the overiding factor in my decision so many years ago that i no longer needed 'assistance' in reaching any level of euphoria or release…

    because i didn't want to mess with the tender/irrevocably PERFECT chemistry of my little brain. I wanted to cherish and protect it, and develop it and see what kinds of games i could play with the utmost control of my own mind.

    also…with psychedelics, once you have turned the key and opened the gate, you don't need to keep turning the key. the door is already open and you can walk through and dive in as far as you want to go, COMPLETELY SOBER.

    I have reached points of abandon and euphoria so exquisite without a single chemical aide…

    and i know you can too.

    again, not to judge.

    just to encourage that yall be safe out there.

    *AND* take care of each other. Nothing is more beautiful about these gatherings than the opportunity to connect with other humans. Do your part, and watch out for each other.

    That means not only just being nice to other people, but maybe bringing some extra water to share with new friends, or doing whatever it is you do to treat them as you want to be treated.

    over & out
    :)
    L

    • msevans

      Your words are beautiful and insightful. You have opened the door for so many including myself with this blog to stop and think about their actions and to realize what an amazing gift our mind, body, and spirit are. We each carry with us unique characteristics that make us special and we should seriously stop and think before we decide to tamper with that very thing. Thank you for bringing this huge issue to the attention of so many.
      Maeci Sha “busnectar”

    • Brian Noble

      “also…with psychedelics, once you have turned the key and opened the gate, you don't need to keep turning the key. the door is already open and you can walk through and dive in as far as you want to go, COMPLETELY SOBER.”

      One of the greatest things i've ever heard/seen you say.

      “I have reached points of abandon and euphoria so exquisite without a single chemical aide…”

      Only from your music I have achieved the same.

      • http://www.bassnectar.net LORIN

        to be clear there are 3 NOUNS in that metaphor:

        the person
        the key
        the gate (or the door)

        and implied by the existence of the key, is of course a LOCK. so that's 4 nouns.

        in this metaphor YOU are BOTH the person AND the gate.
        the key can be any number of things, not just 'drugs'
        and the LOCK can be any number of things as well.

        i figured that is an obvious side note, but just call me Dr Obvious.

        • Brian Noble

          Sometimes you just make too much sense, Dr Obvious. <3

    • ted

      I was at your show in London! outta control night. I was with the pineapple girl representing for America. Would you want some of our pictures from the show? they're pretty good, we were right up front and I didn't see any baasnectar-crew-guys takin family photos.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kathleenellenmallett petrapixipan

    To our community, family, and friends:

    !Metta anicca! In Pali, the tongue of the time of Guatama Buddha, it means “lovingkindess in the face of impermanence.” As energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it simply (or quite complexly) changes form. May the life of the one be celebrated. May we not fear death, but be inspired by its inevitable transformation to live fully in the now. The great wheel always turns, though it remains still in its center. Our awareness is everything as we witness the no-thing'ness of all existence. 'Tis our choice of how clear or clouded that vast interconnectivity is consciously conceived. May we be sensitive. May we be empowered. May we be free to act accordingly to our and eachother's greatest good. May all the forms of the flow of life be respected. Metta anicca. Metta anicca. Om…

    ~From your friend, family, and community.

  • http://www.twitter.com/dayshabass Daysha

    better

  • Sexxymushroom

    You are such an articulate writer, overflowing with ideas and philosophies. I love how you're so giving and caring towards your fans. Have you ever considered writing your own book? I would love to see you do that! It would definitely be a best-seller. Please consider!

  • willwatkins

    These people, these ideas, all this love. This is what Bassnectar and his wicked beats are for, bringing all this beauty together!

    I LOVE YOU LORIN!!

    I LOVE YOU GUYS!!

    LETS KEEP THIS LOVE ALIVE!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=566088962 Alan Warneke

    This makes me feel like you actually care about the fans. I strongly suggest that if people take any mind altering substances that they should do it because music enhances them, not they enhance the music. You can go to these shows sober and have a great time. But I dont understand why some people that do take substances, try to push the limit and get as messed up as they can. I can only image how the performer would feel after hearing something like this happening. I love that you hand out water at your shows. It very smart especially when the venue wants 3 dollars for a half glass for water.

    p.s. I think everyone could agree for some Christmas jam……Deck the halls with WHOMP!!! haha

  • Tony Pecoraro

    Lorin, you have yet to disappoint. With each thought you express in your music or in your words I grow more convinced that you have only the strongest compassion for others as your artistic inspiration. Just by being yourself, your intentions are the rule that all artists should compare themselves to prior to deciding how to be. Keep bringing it man.

    Btw, I was at the Nov. 5th concert at 'The Electric House' in Philly. It was the most valuable experience I've ever paid for. The next time you wobble the foundations of the East Coast cities, I give you my word I'll be there.

  • ameerkat

    you are right about that ….sobriety is beautiful … and your body is a natural pharmacy ready to give your brain a BUNCH of pure uncut euphoric neurotransmitters : ) !! (dopamine,serotonin…..etc) just gotta go for a run or excersice/take a hot bath or shower/ accomplish something/ or even better go to a bassnectar show and let the neurotransmitters begin to flow!! ;)

    much love
    womp

  • john

    Lorin you are the man. I'd be lying if i said i haven't had my fair share of molly and/or acid at bassnectar shows, but the recent death of the kid at the chicago show and the sts9 death have totally changed my attitude on drugs. i remember at the first bass center, i was tripping crazy hard, and when you came on and opened with the higher and higher thing, the only thing i was thinking the rest of the set was, while acid is an incredible experience, i don't need it to feel connected to everyone around me and to love the music you are playing. this post has sealed the deal.

    • http://www.bassnectar.net LORIN

      right on!!!!!!
      :)
      everyone is on their own schedule, their own timeline, in accordance with their own particular past.
      so no judgements!!!

      all i know is it *CHANGED* my life SO DEEPLY for the better, and then within an INSTANT i knew i was unlocked and i never wanted it again… it was kind of like after i went to that next level it felt disrespectful (only for me personally!!!) to use it again, as if it would be ABUSE, because i already opened the gate.

      so i spent all my time diving through the gate…and that is where Bassnectar came from…totally 'sober'
      :)

      • http://www.SchoolsNotPrisons.org Jon

        Hi Lorin,

        This is so great. Thank you for posting this! So many artists are completely unwilling to discuss the use of drugs on the live music scene, even doing so as openly and rationally as you have here. And then we have the RAVE Act and other policies that only seem to make the problem worse.

        Please consider joining Students for Sensible Drug Policy's AMPLIFY Project (Artists Making Policy and Leadership Inspirational For Youth). We're getting young people involved in the discussion about harm reduction and drug policies and are working with lots of great artists like Lotus, Pnuma Trio, Signal Path, Slightly Stoopid, John Brown's Body, Rebelution, Mr. Lif and more!

        The project is mutually beneficial too. We have 150 chapters on college campuses that can be Bassnectar street teams!

        Thanks again for spreading the word about sensible and independent choices at your shows!

        Jon

  • JuslikerainDROPes

    Bassfest was one of the first shows I have seen COMPLETELY clear headed, and HOLEY URCH!!!!!! Shit was absurdly spECTACULA. I felt more elevated then ever. I found myself DANCING so much harder! everything was illuminated. I knew I couldn’t be too messed up , I mean FAAAHK! Thousands of people, who love what I love, and the music that SETS ME OFF, I didn’t want any part of the memory to forgotten. My advice: stick with a couple glasses of wine or some cocktails, but let your mind ELAVATE, to stimulate!!! :) Lorin, I have been realizing lately how much I love you reggae tunes.. Barrington Levy remix, kingston town, BONGO BONG, I've heard SOUL SHAKEDOWN. when you in colorado next, will you drop some REgga rrrrrrroooootsmonnn???

  • Zcash Razorback

    Lorin, man I have seen you in Lawrence, Chicago, Fayetteville and Little Rock and I can personally say that there is not a show on earth like yours. There are many people who believe going to shows are just an excuse to do molly, lsd, etc. But the music you are producing goes to such higher levels than others in the business. The fact that you do all of this with complete sobriety should set an example to the bassheads worldwide. I don't like hearing about people dying in my home town, it's sad to hear. I've never been to your shows under the influence and I have the time of my life every time you play. The genre bending that you do is beautiful enough as it is, drugs aren't necessary to see this. Keep it bangin hard, been getting into Underground Communication lately, kick it complex is a masterpiece. Hope to see you in Arkansas sometime soon, (even though you dissed it in this post), and if you don't come, I see a bass road trip in the future. Keep doin what you do, because I know you inspire me and many others I know. In a world where pop music repeats itself over and over through radio waves, there is always Lorin Ashten to keep things fresh, and that's much appreciated to say the very least.

  • spaceylacey

    i stay high on the bass waves oozing from speakers as tall as me and that alone keeps me lifted. thank you so much for your vibrations pouring from your subs and your soul! what really gets me off is the fact that i can feel the hardest bass vibrating my skirt. its music u feel physically and spiritually. thanks for the momentary transendence <3

    dc, richmond, and philly was the greatest trilorgy a girl could ask for. and doug just topped it off. hes such a special soul.

    im going to be totally honest here. i have experienced bassnectar sober and intoxicated, im here to say that its way better sober, you miss the show if ur not. so ppl dont get stuck in your high,instead get absorbed by the bass blasting off your face!

    • Jde

      Sober is way better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mattmoffett Matt Moffett

    I really can't fathom why it matters if Lorin uses drugs, the bottom line is that drugs and the use of them are extremely prevalent in the dubstep world right now, just appreciate the fact that he creates a space in which both drug users AND sober people can have a great experience, and if you don't know what you're doing with a drug (or even don't know what drug you're taking) you probably shouldn't be taking it, thanks so much for 1st bass Lorin, Coachella was good too

  • Nathan

    Hey Lorin. Thanks so much for the heads up. Over 700 BassHeads have come to our site since you posted this. My name is Nathan Messer, and I'm the president of DanceSafe. I also have worked as a Green Dot Ranger Lead at Burning Man, performing something akin to psychedelic emergency services there for about 5 years now.

    For those of you who don't know us, we're a network of drug users and former drug users, primarily from the rave and nightclub communities, who seek to educate fellow drug users, especially naive users, with information on how to identify and reduce risks associated with recreational drug use. Sometimes this means abstaining (say if you you have shit to do that day or the next day, or if you are concerned about the come down, adverse effects, etc) and sometimes this means taking less, or telling your friends what you plan to do so they can help watch out for you, or any number of other steps you can take to mitigate the harms associated with the use of drugs.

    We do not try to tell people to not use drugs. There are many, many, many organizations out there doing that. We are targeting those who choose to use anyway, or are thinking of using anyway. Those who Just Say Maybe.

    In regards to ecstasy in particular, there are some concrete steps that users, venue owners, and promoters can take to mitigate the harms associated with ecstasy use. The number one cause of ecstasy 'overdose' is a combination of drug use, heat and dehydration. Ecstasy causes body temperature to rise, increases sweating, and reduces the urge to drink water. Venue owners can help by providing free cold drinking water, making sure they don't fill the venue over capacity, and ensuring good ventilation. If the temperature in the middle of the dancefloor is 100-120 degrees, something is seriously wrong. Users need to remember to drink a pint of water an hour (a water bottle is a pint). Though avoid water bottles and bring your own Nalgene or Sigg bottle, because plastic water bottles are terribly wasteful and certainly not good for the environment. Venue owners, if they sell bottled water, should leave the caps on so buyers can refill in the bathroom taps.

    With regards to ecstasy use – LESS IS MORE. The more ecstasy you use at a time, and the more often you use, means that the special effects decline over time. If it is a special experience for you then save it for special occasions, use less (you can cut pills in half). Drink water, replenish electrolytes, and take 5-HTP afterwards to help protect your serotonin neurons.

    Lorin, if you are interested, we would be happy to staff some booths at your events in cities where we have volunteers (primarily west coast, Wisconsin, and some other locations). We distribute ecstasy testing kits in an attempt to weed out 'fake' ecstasy that often has more problems than MDMA itself, especially if the user doesn't know that's what they're taking. We also have info cards detailing basic health and safety info regarding 15 different popular recreational drugs, and are adding more all the time. .

    Email us at dsusa@dancesafe.org if you want to collaborate. I think you already know our web designer, Michael Holden, who has taken photos of you at various Seattle events and Burning Man.

    • http://www.bassnectar.net/community/ Basscorsair

      Nathan- thank you so much for reaching out! We appreciate the work you do SO much. The boys are overseas and we will shoot you an email when they return and we have some time to talk about it.

    • Mmw313

      I completely agree with DanceSafe’s mission and vision! I am finishing up in May with my Masters in Public Health with a concentration in social behavior and community health and I’m focusing on evidence-based practices and promotion of harm reduction approaches among the music festival, rave, and club drug scene! It’s showing effectiveness and it’s important to not promote abstinence, but rather to promote harm reduction and “knowing your body.” I have actually referred to your organization in my application(s) for DrPH programs. I would really like to work with your organization on these public health issues and focus my practicum and dissertation accordingly. It is a long term goal of mine to establish my own northeastern chapter, as the closest one to me (NY) seems to be Balitmore, MD. The need is tremendous. This may not be the preferred way to network with each other, but if you would like to collaborate and move forward with establishment and new partnerships in the northeast, please connect with me. :)

      mw179357@albany.edu

      Talk soon,

      much <3
      Missi

  • Theklobla

    very true. one thing i think that might help is if there wasnt waterbottles for 5 dollars… i meen think about a drug users attitude if they only got five more bucks in their pocket: a watter bottle? or another point of molly? just sayin'.

    • Shasta

      couldn't agree more

    • bionicdancer

      Bassnectar's crew was thinkin about all of our health, when they handed out free water bottles DURING the show. Saved my life. I thank you.

  • Jay

    Thank you Bassnectar, coming from me personally, and my organization, Students for Sensible Drug Policy. This piece of writing here stands for exactly what our organization believes in; education about safe drug use, and preventing harms arising from drug use/abuse. The importance of acknowledging drug use at your shows, and in general, is immeasurable. Much respect for choosing to not frequently use drugs, as it seems to be a general assumption about you based on the style of music you create. Please continue to spread the word about safe drug use and education, it is the most we can do to prevent tragic accidents such as this. Once again, thank you. Bass for life!

  • Alden Farrar

    I think some of the answers you seek can be found here. These are to wiki pages that I created last night:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:X1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WaldoFarrar

  • Daveking800

    Dear Lorin,

    By now I'm sure that you have read dancesafe.com's response, and have already considered their offer. But I feel very strongly about the positive benefits of one of their booths at your concert. I know that having it there may seam like you are advocating drug use, and that might not be the message you want to send, but people are going to do it anyways as I'm sure you know and their services would be greatly helpful in the prevention of people taking “bad” drugs. My girlfriend and I recently went a drug venture at a Bloody Beetroots concert (we were extremely safe and do not do this in excess) and had what one might call an unpleasant experience. I don't want this to happen to anyone and a booth were people can talk honestly about drugs and not feel as if they have to hide it when they need someone to talk to (like me and my scared girlfriend felt) would be much appreciated to all.

    Thank You,
    -A Concerned Basshead

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Seeherman/523887395 Josh Seeherman

      You make a great point…pretending this problem doesn't exist/ignoring it does absolutely nothing but make it worse. I think it's fucking awesome that DanceSafe responded to Bassnectar with an offer to set up booths at some of his shows. The only thing as important as having a good time at shows is staying safe, and the filthiest music producer and the most informative “stay safe but have fun” website are so down to spread these positive resources.

    • Mmw313

      I completely agree! I am finishing up in May with my Masters in Public Health and I'm focusing on evidence-based practices and promotion of harm reduction approaches among the music festival, rave, and club drug scene! It's showing effectiveness and it's important to not promote abstinence, but rather to promote harm reduction and “knowing your body”

      Lorin- if there is anyway I can get involved to put my education, knowledge, and skills to a good use, please let me know!!

      much <3
      Missi

  • BM

    what do we really want in life? why do people do drugs? are we attempting to feel something “real”, to be connected, to truly let go and shine? to shed ourselves of our ego and of free ourselves of societies trappings, just for a few hours… to truly be here now…

    all the great teachers have said it, known it, lived it….

    and its all already within us… healthy living, excercise, MEDITATION, mindfulness….

    cause you know….

    They say you are what you eat, so I strive to be healthy
    My goal in life is not to be rich or wealthy
    'Cause true wealth comes from good health and wise ways
    We got to start taking better care of ourselves, be healthy y'all- DEAD PREZ

    check out the documentary Fierce Grace for so powerful stuff….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6MQWKXlDg

    and of course, the late great BILL HICKS
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl_dJxEj0Lo&playnext=1&list=PL9CFE61FCB4B41F50&index=1

    peace and love

  • Bass_Bunny

    It is always sad when what begins as expiramentation takes to a level of dependence and/or deterioation of the mind, body and spirit. For those of us who chose to expirament I believe a time eventually comes for all of us where we choose where to go from there (and for those who argue they are wired a certain way or they can't control themselves well you can choose to overcome that I've seen it done). As some one who has seen euphoric times turn to heartbreak and creative minds turn to souless shells of a former brilliance, I have to say that you hit it right on the head. There is nothing more valuable in this life then to have a clear mind and good health. Part of why I love you so much is that you bring me that euphoria through dance and music and without negativity I've left behind a few years ago. Reading this you once again blow my mind :)

    Much Love to you & the kru

  • http://twitter.com/dontwearshoes lindsey

    I didn't read this until today, and it made me think of last night @ the Fox– first time seeing you completely sober, and also the best I've felt at a show. I wasn't sober, I just wasn't high on chemicals.. it was the love and music and connectedness that I was high on. It was a feeling that I didn't even know was possible.. very pure, very clear. And all real, authentic, unadulterated. Just you and your fans.. all of us, one big lovin' family.

    so thank you, thank you, thank you for what you do

  • Ashley

    Random Question O' The Day:
    What brand Yerba Mate do you use? Any particulars??

  • meltd@wn

    My understanding is that he took LSD rather than MDMA, and that his death was a suicide. :( It was awful that he had to do that to the people he left behind, and even more awful that he had to do it by walking into a bus on the highway, and involve even more people that had nothing to do with him. I don't know him, but understand that he was troubled. How very very sad. I have heard rumors that multiple people died of overdoses at that show, but that's not what happened. I understand, but I could be wrong, that he left the show early, drove to the highway, parked, and walked across the divider and into oncoming traffic, where he was hit by an oncoming bus. Awful. Just awful. I'm reminded of the campaign by Dan Savage to make “it gets better” videos by established gay and gay friendly adults on youtube to gay teens who are the victims of bullying. It does get better. Whatever was troubling him, it would have gotten better had he waited to come down and worked to make it better.

    • Rumpus01

      what?

  • Tyler Marshall

    Lorin,
    This article is spot on. This is how people should live a fun, successful and responsible life.
    You unlike some artists value rationality and a strong mind over pleasure and irresponsible behavior. Having this capability is a much better mental state in my opinion than being “high”. Your music does that quite well on its own.
    I attended your Nashville show, and needless to say it was one of the most memorable experiences of my life. It did not inspire me to get “messed up” necessarily, but it inspired me to just tune out all the negativity in the world and just think. I am constantly shreddin to house, dubstep etc and this music stimulates me to think. To think deeply and critically. That's what I get out of it. And I think this is your message. Responsibility and moderation. Always act rationally, and I think that if people listen to your music in the way it is meant to be heard then they will hear that message. I was 3 rows from the front in Nashville and was literally on another planet. Completely sober. I'm not saying you have to be completely sober, just people shouldn't over do it and forget about why they come to the show. I didn't throw glowsticks at you either. haha
    But dude, always a fan, I ll be at the Memphis show as I didn't get tickets in time for the Atlanta show. :/
    Any time you're in Tennessee you can pretty much count me in!
    Oh and thanks for the free music, it saved me about $17 which I don't have, that I would have for sure spent on your tracks!

    Thanks for keepin it real!

    Always thinking and always shreddin,

    Tyler

  • Connor

    who would have thought that the same artist i use to get drugs to go see, would also be the person who inevitably “unlocked” me from the hell caused by my drug addiction. Ive been clean for two months and am starting to feel stronger, smarter, and more alive then ever. cant wait to experience you sober at BassCenter2.
    Keep Spreading the message Lorin and save more kids like me!

  • Chelly

    Lorin, this article is excellent and I love you even more for putting this out there! I was certainly the typical “raver” when I first started partying…candy kid, rollin, trippin, candy flippin, eating whatever was “graciously” given to me at whatever party I was at. It pains me to think of the horrible things I did to my body and my brain back in those days. I have seen how addiction affects lives and families first hand, and addiction sucks. The fact that people cant seem to go to a party without being on some kind of mind-altering influence is upsetting. I have had the best times of my life at parties by being completely sober! I can say that I have been to what I am sure were some great festivals and parties, and I have certainly spent a lot of money on travelling to those places, but it saddens me that I don't remember my times there.
    Just last night, at Tabernacle, a kid literally fell on top of my fiance, my friend and myself and had a grand mal seizure in front of us. That guy was trashed. He was nothing buy pupil, cow jawed and soaked with sweat. That was scary, especially for me because I have had seizures as a direct result of drug use, and I saw what happens when people take it too far. I lost count of how many people came up to me looking for molly, rolls and sid. Yeah, I was having an amazing time, and I was dancing my ass of from the start of your set to the end, but I was 100% sober and I remember all of the sick drops and disgusting wobble.
    My point is, you CAN go to a party and support your favorite artists without being on something! The scene was killed by the drugs a long time ago. I commend you Lorin. Thank you for sharing your experience with me, and for being one of the few sober faces of music. I cant wait to see you again in 2011! Much love!

    Michelle

  • cme

    Hey Lorin, not sure if you'll get this before the show tonight, but I figured I'd try anyway. A group of about 15 bought tickets to the NYE show. A few people decided to go up yesterday, including one of our best friends who actually got us all started on dubstep, to get ready for the big night. Unfortunately, things got out of hand. Our friend overdosed, and passed away this morning. Needless to say, none of us are making it to the show tonight, even though we all know that's what he would have wanted. Instead, we gave our tickets to others to enjoy. Anyways, we were just hoping you could dedicate tonight to one of the most incredible guys we've ever known, who always lived life to the fullest, and to remind people to be especially safe tonight. He'll know who you're talking about. Thanks so much, and get extra rowdy tonight for our boy.

    • adubz

      Not being rude at all, not trying to spam this message. Buttt, I'm pretty sure we saw this incident go down. My girlfriend, her best friend and I were extremely devastated by what we saw a minute after midnight…. We just want you to know that we are praying for you and your friends and cannot express the feelings we have to what happened. We are deeply sorry that you lost one of your own and continue to think about him even today! Know that there are people out there that care and are thinking about him constantly and are truly upset for yall's loss…

      • http://www.bassnectar.net LORIN

        Wow

        this is all intense. of course i am so so sorry to hear about the loss of life. so tragic. I do not even need to reiterate how sad and pointless and uneccessary this kind of thing is: Y'all need to be MORE careful. With yourselves, and with each other.

        To be clear: nobody died at the show, but the fact that this person passed away due to a drug overdose is just simply tragic. I do not know the details but i know this:

        We have been discussing Health & Safety internally quite a lot. And many of us feel it is wrong to condemn “all” drug use, because each and every human is so different. But that fact is WHY it is so important to be careful.

        Nobody can or should tell anyone else to do drugs, because even if the drug affects an individual one way, it can affect another individual MANY other ways. You just never know. Our bodies are so tender and magical and delicate, and you might find 10 people who can all take a hit of something and be fine, but one other person could have a bad reaction to it. There is so much to say on this topic, but until we have more clarity on how to handle it, all i can say is: BE CAREFUL WITH YOURSELVES AND EACH OTHER>

        And speaking from my own life, you DO NOT NEED drugs to have a good time or to completely immerse yourselves in an experience… I do remember i used to THINK that it was necessary, but i know that it is not.

        For the past ten years, my body has been without psychedelics or anything like that (i do drink alcohol occasionally, and coffee) but i reach EXTREME levels of mesmerization just off of music and my imagination

        Anyhow, again, best of luck to all of you, we love you guys and want you to be safe.

        • Jordan

          I just want to say that I have been too all my Bassnectar “on something” and at NYE I had a horrible experience on something. I ended up having to leave the show early and it broke my heart. I have now given up everything and can't be more excited! The music gets me high, I don't need the drugs. I am now more excited for BASS CENTER, than I am for any other musical journey I have taken because I am going SOBER :) I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TRY IT, HIS MUSIC IS A MILLION TIMES MORE MAGICAL THIS WAY. BUT TO EACH THEIR OWN, AND AFTER WITNESSING WHAT HAPPENED ON NYE TO MYSELF AND OTHERS, I ENCOURAGE THOSR WHO DO CHOOSE TO USE..BE SAFE, PLEASE. IT HURTS ALL THE FANS WHEN TRAGIC YHIBGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN

        • Newwaytosayhooray

          Thanks for taking the time to post. My daughter and I know the boy who passed and it's pretty senseless. My daughter is 20 and took me to one of your shows post divorce many years ago when I wouldn't let her go because of those kinds of fears. I am aware she tries things, but I also know she has a great head on her shoulders and is a 'smart consumer'.
          Guess I choose my battles. We have a lot of fun at your shows, with or without enhancements and we love the energy.
          Drugs are, in my opinion, a problem when one does not care to learn ones limits and not adhere to them. The same goes for alcohol.

          What is the point if you get so messed up you don't even remember the great time you had?

          My heart goes out to the family of this young man, who is my daughter's age. I couldn't imagine…It is sad when kids go to shows and it's not even really about the music anymore. Not for all, but it seems to be that way for many. Sadly.

          On a brighter note: Thank you so much for playing “I am a laser” for us. We have only heard you play it once in Knoxville in 08! That was great and made our NYE!

          Much love,
          Mother/Daughter.

      • ben bryan

        adubz this was a completely separate incident you are talking about i believe. I think cme is talking about greg buyck and he had a heart attack at the 12/30 show and died the next morning in the hospital. Here is the obituary:

        http://new.thedailytimes.com/O

        Anyways, the incident you are talking about happened on the 31st about literally 2 mins after midnight. this incident nearly ruined my whole show i was literally freaking out i thought he was dying my buddy and I had to walk outside because it was too much to watch. I think the guy had a seizure due to the lights or ingesting too much drugs or both. But i am sure you got these incidents mixed up because Greg Buyck died the morning of the 31st.

        Greg was one of the nicest people i have ever met and will be greatly missed. You couldnt go to a dubstep show in the knoxville area without seeing good ole greg at the front with a big smile on his face. Everyone PLEASE BE SAFE at these shows. If you cannot go to a show without getting SOO fucked up then stay at home. Know your body and your limit and dont be a fucking fool by crossing it. has anyone ever thought of just drinking and going to a bassnectar show? it really is fucking stupid that you go to a show and see no one at the bars. anyways not gonna preach just….BE SMARTER

  • Awkangieser

    Nugs not Drugs :)

  • Bass Head

    I second that. Nugs not drugs

  • colleen

    you're amazing. thank you for giving us killer bass and caring about real shit too.